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or whatever. they laid this on harry reid and that's how it all got started. he is -- so i says obama is lying basically is what he is saying, you know. he is dead wrong. the sequester did not start with jack lew. it are started back in 1985 with graham-rudman. >> that's when they first had the sequester for that round of budget cuts. so it's an idea that's been around. yes, as jay carney has pointed out, if there was a meeting with the white house, would the republicans remember who were holding up refuses to do anything about raising the debt ceiling because they said we have to have a lodge-term deficit reduction plan: the president said we will appoint this committee. >> i am having bad flashbacks >> bill: we were this and they said how do we know the super committee is going to do its job and jack lew said i remember something that they did 25 years ago or whatever called a sequester. the republicans said we like that idea. we will hold this giant rock above people's heads that will fall on their heads if they don't do hair job. the republicans e
scheduled a meeting with john boehner and mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi and harry reid tomorrow, not until tomorrow. tomorrow morning at the white house to see if there's any way as a last-minute measure, that they could at least delay the sequester and avoid it kicking in. doesn't look like that will happen. we've got lots to talk about. we start off this hour talking about the day. today, the last day for pope benedict xvith. what does that mean for the catholic church in terms of the success, in terms of the direction of the church. and james salt is the executive director of catholics united. good friend of the program. james, good to see you again. >> thanks for having us. >> bill: thanks for coming in to find out the latest intrigue from the vatican. there is a lot going on. >> you don't say. >> bill: more politics than there is inside the full court press. we've got our own sheriff. peter ogborn and dan henning. >> it is pretty shady in here. >> bill: do you have your red slippers on? >> insider politics. >> bill: and phil backert has the phones. cyprian bowlding our vide
override -- harry reid yesterday said the nra is just one organization among many. we listen to them but that doesn't mean we follow them. can we override the nra on these background checks? will we this time? 866-55-press. one other gun-related item that caught my attention that i find disgusting, this headline in "the new york times," got the whole article because i clipped it, it bugged me so much the most wanted gun in america. you know what happened up in newtown connecticut on december 14th, this union gunman broke into sandy hill elementary school, takes out his ar 15, mos down 20 innocent 6 graders, some of them shot 10, 11 times action with that ar 15, also mowed down and killed six innocent teachers and supervisors there at that school the police say that's the weapon he used, the ar 15. so what did we do about it? what did americans do about that? did they turn in disgust at that weapon, that semi automatic assault rifle? did they say this good shall beould be banned because nobody needs a gun like that to defend himself or her family? we did the opposite
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